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From a sad old white guy....on election day

Posted on: November 4, 2008 6:13 pm
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Odd thoughts while wondering whatever happened to Henry Aaron:

I hoped the title made you cringe a little bit. I hope it made you uncomfortable. I hope it made you wonder if what you were about to read would be a racist bash on Barack Obama.

Don't worry, it isn't.

Nor is it a commendation for Obama. What it is, is a sad revelation that I had this weekend.

My church sponsored a 'Trunk or Treat' for neighborhood kids on Saturday, Nov. 1st. One of our families was dressed as secret service personnel. (Actually, they looked more like the Blues Brothers, but we'll let that slide). In discussions with the dad, we discussed the election. In the discussion, we mused to what the job of a secret service worker might be like if Obama wins today. We both thought that the job would become much more difficult.

I began to trace back the thought. Why would it be more difficult? The answer is obvious. As the first black president, Obama would automatically be a target for anti black groups. This saddens me, as a victim of racial violence in the late 60s and early 70s. I was victimized by watching black friends deal with all kinds of bigotry as a young man. I lived in an area with great cultural and racial diversity. During times of racial unrest, I would not be able to see my black and Hispanic friends. It just wasn't good practice. Sooner or later, someone in our group would suffer the consequences. I had full cans of pop and bricks thrown at me by white people for being an 'N.... lover'. My friends received crap from blacks for being an 'Uncle Tom'. Most of this was perpetrated by people from outside our community who came in for the 'fun'.

So, why would Obama be a target. The sad realization is this. We really haven't come that far in race relations. Never, to my knowledge, has a sitting president been a target for assasination because of the COLOR OF HIS SKIN. Thus, the conclusion has to be that blacks have never targeted the president for totally racial reasons. I feel assured that will not be the case if Obama is elected.

Racism is merely clouded by political correctness. No minority group should ever be concerned with the view of someone like John Rocker. He was visible and 'on the record' with his views. He was nuts, but you knew where he stood.  The danger comes from racists who profess to be tolerent of racial differences. Ask our service men and women fighting in Iraq, Afganistan, and formerly in Viet Nam. When you cannot see your enemy, or identify your enemy in a group of people, it becomes exponentially more difficult to fight. Oh yes, racism still exists in great quantity. Now, people don't profess it publicly. They hide it behind closed doors of board rooms , in exectutive offices, or even in community meetings. The racism is more covert than it was in the 60s and 70s, but it is still there.

I welcome minority views. If I am all wet, I apologize. If not, understand that there is one guy out here who trys to get it. I will never know how you feel, but I feel for you.

God bless you all and God Bless America.

Take care.

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Unitas
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: November 6, 2008 9:08 pm
 

From a sad old white guy....on election day

Awesome post moms:

I hope I never forget how it felt in those days. My dad was very bigoted, but he never pushed it on the rest of the family. As I got older, and he would 'express himself' around my kids, I would remind him that I didn't want that kind of garbage going on in front of my kids. If they picked up that kind of belief, (and thank God none of them did) I wanted them to learn that hate on their own.

My dad would shut it down immediately. But of course, he was bigoted against everything. Race, religion, body piercings on males, facial hair and long hair. Come to think of it, I often thought my dad was the prototype for Archie Bunker.

One of my hopes is that more people will lovingly correct people show disapproval of the first family because of the color of their skin. Barack Obama is the president elect. He will give people plenty of reasons not to like him once he starts making exective decisions. Let that be how  and why we show our displeasure.

On another front, it is kind of nice to see the world championing us for the results of the election.

Take care.



Unitas
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: November 6, 2008 8:59 pm
 

From a sad old white guy....on election day

Thanks Crookedlettaman:

I hope you are right. Most of the good could come undone really fast if some idiot gets loose and does harm to Mr. Obama.

As I watched television, and saw the tears of thousands of African Americans, I couldn't help thinking of Martin Luther King. Was this the moment he was talking about when he quoted the old Negro Spiritual? Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, we're free at last.

To hear the hope spoken makes me believe that perhaps we've turned a corner. At least the shackels are off. Because now, the American dream is open to a whole new American group....both in color and generationally.

Take care.



momluvsfootball
Since: Sep 9, 2006
Posted on: November 6, 2008 2:15 am
 

From a sad old white guy....on election day

I remember those days, perhaps that's why Tuesday was more important then a lot of people realize.  It had been less then 50 years since men were being killed trying to get black men registered to vote.  That the color of skin determined where you sat, where you ate, what fountain you drank from. 

Thankfully I never forgot how I felt when I heard of the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr and Bobby Kennedy.

I remember in elementary school, where "walkers" got to go home for lunch from time to time, especially right before the class parties.  How I use to invite a little girl who lived to far away to walk home and had to ride the bus, to our house for lunch on those days.  How we were friends, through elementary school, through scouts.  How the color of her skin didn't matter to me, nor the color of mine never seemed to matter to her.   Though my parents, who were raised with such prejudices, overlooked those prejudices and never dissuaded us from having friends of any race, religion or gender.  How the neighborhood couldn't understand how my parents could let her come into our house.

I have to be thankful to my parents and grandparents, who had obvious prejudices, never passed it on to us.  That I've taught my daughter not to look at a persons skin or their religion or their financial class to determine her friends. 

How sad that there is still racism, after all this time.  After too many had died to ensure that all men are created equal, regardless of skin color.  And yes, alot of it is still cloaked in political correctness, only professed behind closed doors for the extent, while the more open ones, a minority of which have gone to extremes to recreate the sins of the past. 

Tuesday night I cried, not out of sadness, but out of happiness.  Just as JFK's election was monumental because it opened the door and pushed away prejudices based on religion, this past election got most of us looking past race and again gave hope that not "if" a woman is ever elected President...just when a woman is elected President. 

Hopefully it will be our grandchildren who will completely realize how foolish their grandparents and great grandparents were to hate just because of someone's differences. 


Crookedlettaman
Since: Sep 24, 2007
Posted on: November 6, 2008 2:15 am
 

From a sad old white guy....on election day

Excellent post sir.  As a 26 year old, I don't claim to have the breadth of experience you possess. I do disagree, however, that the US has not achieved tremendous progress in race relations.  I think the fact even Obama's opponent, in his concession speech, could speak about the historical significance of electing an African American to the presidency reveals alot about the racial progress we've made.  I also believe the Secret Service has learned from the mistakes that contributed to the assasination and near assasination of JFK and Ronald Reagan respectively.  Let's hope no harms comes to the president-elect because he offers so much hope and inspiration to millions the world over.


Unitas
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: November 4, 2008 11:46 pm
 

From a sad old white guy....on election day

Neil:

Thanks as always. I appreciate your balance and views. If only we would celebrate our differences. How boring our world would be if we were all the same.

Dr. Martin Luther King was assasinated when I was in the 6th grade. Bobby Kennedy was assinated just two months later. Having witnessed these two strong men in America at a young age gave me hope that some day, this racial bias that we experience might someday be a thing of the past.

I think Dr. King would be quite pleased tonight. Quietly pleased. It was very humbling to see the pictures of so many kids cheering, crying for Mr. Obama. I pray for a ReUnited States of America.

And no, it's you who support the wrong team....but what else can you expect from a Brit.....

Take care!



Unitas
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: November 4, 2008 11:40 pm
 

From a sad old white guy....on election day

 Sircheeks....

For one so young, you seem so insightful. My prayer for you is that you live long enough to see some significant shift in the cultural views in this great land. I've often teasingly said that we should all be forced to marry outside our racial group for two generations to put an end, once and for all, to racial stereotyping.

Good luck to you. May your children and grandchildren reap rich rewards from the victory that Mr. Obama achieved this day.

God Bless



neilp
Since: Jan 12, 2007
Posted on: November 4, 2008 10:08 pm
 

From a sad old white guy....on election day

Unitas from what little I know of you from your posts I have nothing but respect for you. Back home in England I had friends who were  "Culturally and ethnically diverse" and I too suffered for my friends (Not as bad as you it seems) but it is a sign of who we are and what we believe in.

I am of the personal belief that until we stop refering to people by their colour (BOTH WAYS) we will never defeat the bigotry of race. Judge people by who they are, what they believe in ( not necessarily religion) and how they act. NOT thier color... real simple for me but real hard for many I guess!

Your only problem is you support the wrong football team!!!!

 



Sircheeks
Since: Jun 30, 2008
Posted on: November 4, 2008 9:00 pm
 

From a sad old white guy....on election day

Here's one for you.

As an African American college student enrolled at a predominantly white school, there are so many social taboos that go unspoken. While many people openly profess their acceptance of inter-racial dating, there are many more who would simply cringe at the idea.

And I'm not just talking about outsiders.

Being in a relationship with someone of a different race comes with so many unwanted labels and feelings. On one hand, it shouldn't matter whether a person is Hispanic, African, Caucasian, Chinese, or Indian. On the other hand, you can't help but feel uncomfortable with the situation - not because of the other person, but because of how other will perceive you. There is a stereotype for every different ethnic group, but what many fail to acknowledge is the stereotype for those who chose to date outside of their race.

A white male dating a black women is viewed as weak.
A white woman dating a black man is inferior or "weird" for doing so.
An Asian woman dating a white male is a "gold digger" or something along those lines.

The list goes on. Whether fairly or not, people are judged and labeled based on who they are with. I had a white female friend who married a man from Ghana. Her parents refused to even show up at her wedding because they were so against the marriage.

It's just not fair.



As far as Obama is concerned, you're absolutely right. There very well may be an increase in assassination attempts and racial slurs thrown around against him. I doubt we'd reach the level of protesting and public demonstrations, but this will seriously test how far we've come as a nation.


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Greetings all. Most of you know me on the boards from my discussions on football. My screenname would actually suggest that I am a football fan first, but that isn't true. I used the name Unitas, because I opened the CBS account on the first weekend of football season in '06. As a youngster, my heroes were Johnny U., and Mickey Mantle. My screenname would have probably be Mantle had I set the account up in April. While I do love my football, the passion of my life is baseball. Always has been and always will be. I think our country's facination with football comes from the weekly event. It is a total diversion from our normal grind. It has a war aspect to it. Battle (play), plan (huddle), battle and so on. Most of us don't have a misguided opinion that we could do what Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Michael Strahan or Ladanian Tomlinson do. Football fits a need for us to vicariously act out our aggressions, and wish harm to some degree on the enemy/opponent. On the other hand, baseball is a microcosm of life. It happens much slower, and more subtly than football or basketball. Every pitch changes the situation, but only those astute to the small parts of the game would understand those things. Sandy Koufax once said that the most important pitch in baseball is 'Strike One'. The whole world is changed in the baseball circles depending on if the batter has an 0-1 or a 1-0 count. I took a group of managers to an outing at Wrigley Field several years ago. Mark Grace had a 2-0 count on him. I said that 'Grace is one of the best cherry pickers in baseball today'. I was explaining that a cherry picker was a hitter that sits on one pitch in one location because he is ahead in the count. No sooner than I said that, he deposited a pitch onto Sheffield Avenue for a 2 run homer.....knowing the game is to love the game. Why would a Midwestern lad be a fan of the Colts and Yankees? Well, my cousin lived 15 miles from Baltimore. He was 4 years older than me, and I idolized him. His favorite player was Johnny U. Thus, I took on a love of the Colts (much to the chagrin of my parents). Mom was a Packer fan and Dad was a Bear fan. The greatest picture ever taken of me is standing in front of Green Bay's stadium (it wasn't called Lambeau Field in '64) with my arms crossed and pouting because my Mother made me stand there to have my picture taken. Taking on the Yankees as my team was much easier since the only team you ever saw on TV in those days were the Yankees. My first baseball memory was Willie McCovey lining out to Bobby Richardson to end the '62 World Series. My sister and I were jumping for joy, and my parents weren't. Baseball was a huge part of my childhood. My family had the biggest back yard in the neighborhood. Big enough to have a decent baseball game. Since I was one of the youngest kids in the neighborhood, I got to play with lots of older kids. This totally enhance my skill set, and I was much ahead of kids my own age. The only way they could play in our yard was to let me play. Had I not blown my arm out when I was 16, I think I might have pitched collegiately, if not professionally. I coached baseball for over 20 years, taking all my sons through their younger years and followed my youngest until he decided not to play in college. (he also hurt himself his senior year, and was being courted by Ohio State, Indiana, and several small schools in Alabama and Georgia). After the coaching career was over, I turned to umpiring baseball, and do that still. My greatest moment in my athletic career came as a coach. As a kid, I never worked as hard as I should have. I was blessed with enormous skill, but wasted much of it. I always felt I must have a big disappointment to my coaches for my poor work ethic. We were playing in a county wide tournament. We had 64 youth teams in our county, and every year there was a single elimination tournament of the season teams (Not all star teams). We were in the final four, playing a team from our own league. We had lost 14 straight to this team over 4 years. We were down 8-7 in the last inning, and my first two guys got on base. With runners on first and second, my catcher laid down a perfect bunt, moving the runners up to second and third. He was out. But, as he was running off the field, he was pumping his fists like he had just gotten the winning hit in the 7th game of the World Series. The entire dugout was out to congratulate him, and our fans were going crazy. All this for an out? We ultimately won the game and then won the tournament on the next night. That is my greatest moment because I knew that, at that moment, that I had given the gift of baseball to all the kids and parents on that team. We told the kids that little things make champions. Bunting is a little thing that a lot of kids don't like to do, but is necessary to have a great team. That poor work ethic as a player made me a good coach. It also makes me a good umpire. I don't 'waste' my talent anymore. I also know what I left on the table. I really enjoy interacting with the kids. They keep me young. I am old school, and expect them to hustle. But, the know I respect them, too. So, when you are complaining about baseball being boring, remember, baseball is real life. Most guys have spent time thinking that they could hit a home run, make the great catch, or throw that guy out trying to take the extra base. Those who understand and recognize the subtlties of life are the ones who get the greatness of baseball. The eternal hope that comes with the blooming of spring and the beginning of another baseball season, through the raging inferno of summer that bakes your brains out in the middle of the season that you don't think will ever end, and finally the autumn of your life that is found in the end of the season played near fall's frost.... Yes, it is slow, but if you don't pay attention, it's gone. Til next time.....
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